香港不少聽審上訴的法官,對原審法官干預審訊視作違反了天條,動輒以此批准上訴,香港常用的字眼叫做法官進入格鬥場(enter into arena),或者因為控制審案進度,干預辯方律師發問,也是批准上訴,撤銷定罪的理由。Freeland 案判辭其中一段,簡潔地講了英國上訴庭的看法:
判辭續點分析原審法官的干預是否合理,其中兩段這樣講:
- There came a point towards the end of the cross examination where the judge made clear that he wanted to finish the witness' evidence that day, rather than have her part heard overnight. He said that he was doing this "in fairness to the witness". We regard this intervention, of which complaint is made, as a reasonable one to make. It is of a type commonly made by judges, particularly where a sensitive witness has been giving evidence. We observe that notwithstanding the judge's comment, Ms Davies continued cross examination for a reasonable period without giving signs of being under pressure. She then said she thought she had finished. She paused to check and then confirmed that she had.
- Our view is that there is nothing to complain of in relation to the witness E. The judge was controlling or managing the proceedings firmly, but appropriately. There is no sign that Ms Davies was put off or impeded improperly in what she was doing.
我看到不少不知所謂的人,不講怎樣控制審案的進度,而是自己刻意拖長審訊,目的是可以少審少錯,也驅使我寫了上庭的代價 五篇文來批評。
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回覆刪除How could you do?
That's a gross violation of human rights. I'm surprised that those human rights people did not come out to make a fuzz. On second thought, I'm not surprised at all. What needs to be done is to write to the respective UN department(s), and make them to comment on the issue. Second, contact "human rights lawyers" to appeal the case and thirdly, launch a campaign to call for donation for both legal and medical fees.
刪除Frankly, the pro-prosecution sense in me would agree with Anthea Pang, the deputy high court judge. This kind of illegal employment sought by illegal immigrant or asylum seeker is more or less in the same category. 14 months is a norm or close to the 15 months tariff. The magistrate may tamper justice with mercy by giving a little more discount. I am afraid I cannot agree with the gross violation of human rights comment. A lot of asylum seekers are seeking financial betterment than having valid ground to apply. If we are going back to the 1974 influx of Vietnamese problem, there were also social outcry why we had to accept so many refugees while a lot of human rights vocal countries just took a passive role. I don't know how to strike a balance between human right, resources and acceptability of refugees. We have a lot such people and applications pending screening and they are walking in the street of HK. Harsh policy to discourage these people from coming seems to be a pragmatic approach. There are a lot of problems in the third world countries. How much does HK need to do to contribute to solving the global problem?
刪除Unfortunately, HK is part of the 1951 Refugee Convention and its 1967 Protocol which require medical and social care be provided and the refugees have rights to seek employment. If HK does not want refugees, don't be part of that thing, and don't claim to be a center for rule of law and human rights, part of the international partnership and all that. You cannot have both. Nonetheless, once a person, refugee or not is taken in, basic medical care has to be provided, and if the person dies due to the lack of medical care, HK is culpable.
刪除The problem with Vietnamese refugees started with the British, who wanted to gain good image without paying for it.
Yet, the asylum seekers are not yet classified as refugees. Their stay is restricted according to their condition of stay on the paper which allows them to walk freely in the HK street. One of the conditions is working not permitted.
刪除But then medical care still needed to be provided. The dilemma the person is facing is that his daughter did not and could not receive the health care she needed.
刪除Take issues in China for a comparison. It is perfectly legal for the government to "take back" the land from people in the rural area and people lose their livelihoods because of that. I won't make the argument that the courts have made the "correct" decisions, albeit the form of the law totally allows them to do so.
The judge in this case could have simply ruled on the proportionality issue, saying that special cases mandate special considerations (and principle of non-arbitrary as well). Furthermore, she could have interpreted the Treaty in its spirit. The options are there. At the very least, grant him bail, where the hell is he gonna go? Here I don't see a judge trying to make a humane judgement and whatever she learned in law school about justice and so forth was out the window the moment controversy comes. All I see is a career-minded person making decision that is conservative and safe. Likewise for the judges in China, they are merely making career-smart and legally safe decisions.
While I do not want to pre-judge the merit of appeal in this particular case and I should not say whether his torture claim application is genuine or bogus, since you mention humanitarian consideration, I look into some appeal cases to see the rationale of the court. In this bunch of cases referred from the High Court to the Court of Appeal to lay down sentencing guideline (MAGISTRACY APPEAL NO. 70 OF 2010), in respect of humanitarian considerations, one of the 6 considerations by the Court of Appeal, I quote the relevant information provided by the prosecution to the court:
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52. A genuine torture or refugee claimant deserves sympathy and should not be left in a destitute state during the determination of his status. However, his basic needs such as accommodation, food, clothing and medical care are provided by the Government. As revealed in the paper of the Security Bureau :
‘ 12. On humanitarian grounds, the Administration, in collaboration with non-governmental organisations and on a case-by-case basis, offers in-kind assistance to torture claimants and asylum seekers who cannot meet their basic needs while their claims are being processed. The assistance offered includes temporary accommodation, food, clothing, other basic necessities, appropriate transport allowances, counselling and medical service. As at end of August 2009, 4 234 persons were receiving such assistance. In 2008/2009, the direct expenditure of the Government in this area amounted to $56 million; the provision for the financial year 2009/2010 would be $159 million. The provision of the assistance is arranged by the International Social Service Hong Kong Branch under a service project commissioned by the Social Welfare Department. As requested by Members, details on the provision of food are set out at Annex C. Some Members also asked about the role of the UNHCR Sub-Office Hong Kong in the provision of assistance. The Office has a mandate to provide assistance and arrange for resettlement in recipient countries for refugees. The assistance is provided through non-governmental organisations.
13. We believe that the basic needs of the above groups of persons are catered for by the humanitarian assistance. There is no need for them to take employment to earn a living. Considering the unique circumstances of Hong Kong and to prevent an abuse of our immigration regime, we have no plan to change the present policy regarding torture claimants and refugees/asylum seekers.’
53. The provision of that assistance clearly removes the need of a genuine claimant to seek employment pending the determination of his claim.
Apparently, medical service is one of the many daily necessities provided to the asylum seekers. I suppose the daughter of the appellant has access to government medical service. His employment claim to earn money to treat his daughter may not be valid. The Court of Appeal suggested the tariff of 15 months is still a guideline for sentence.
//medical care are provided by the Government//
回覆刪除I see, thank you Bill.
I don't know how good the medical service is provided to them. I suppose the Hong Kong people also have to wait for a long time to have specialist consultation. The defendant in this case is earning little money. If he is using the money to treat his daughter as reported in the media, I suppose it must be for private doctor. How much, or how many 10s of thousand of dollars can he earn and afford such consultation leading to treatment or operation. The veracity of the claim is doubtful.
刪除sure, you are right. Thank you again.
刪除By the way, figures show that from 2009 up to now in HK, there have been over 10,000 cases of torture claims. Only 7 successful cases are recorded. It is in a way a reflection of the veracity of such applications.
刪除One more question, 在尋求難民身份期間,或已確定為難民,他們在港出生的BB,可有HKID?
回覆刪除These babies do not entitle to have permanent resident status.
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