4天前我寫了大狀執業被拒一文, 司法機構今天上載了有關判辭: RE “A”。在《大狀執業被拒》一文的留言, 除了對A君不能執業的正反意見外, 也涉及對一些有刑事案底仍然能夠執業的大律師的評論。我剛看完判辭, 我同意陳官(Anthony KK Chan Esq)的判決, 除非A君可以上訴推翻陳官的判決, 否則他入行無望。我相信寫這篇也會引起議論, 其實這是好事, 看法無絕對的對與錯, 最緊要是有客觀抒發意見的平台。
不少人舉了資深大狀Coleman及在平洲偷胸圍內褲的馬大狀曾被定罪, 之後還可以執業(馬大狀停牌30個月後復牌), 而A君卻連申請執業也被拒, 視之為不公平對待的例子(所謂大細超)。如果以此指責大律師公會大細超, 我覺得不公平, 因為大律師公會連A君申請執業也不反對。如果說大細超, 大概矛頭直指反對A君執業的律政司。如果原本已是大律師, 被紀律處分停牌, 停牌多久律政司沒有發言權, 停完就復牌, 恐怕律政司也插不到手, 以此推斷就不能指責律政司大細超了。極其量只能說A君不能執業, 是一件不公平的事。
從判辭看, 判決本身講不上不公平。法官先以「公眾利益」(public interest)着眼, 這一點判辭第33是概覽:
繼而要看的是「改過自新」
65. Whilst it may be said that the Applicant’s appeal to the High Court and the CFA were matters of exercising his constitutional right, the evidence before the court does not show that he has in any way accepted his responsibility. This is highly material on the question whether the Applicant has reformed from his past.
先前有報章報導講A君對非禮罪一事已有悔意, 那其實只是A君3位師傅其中一位在推薦信所講, A君自己就自始至終都否認有犯罪, 這又引伸到陳官質疑他的悔意及誠信(因為他原先有些資料沒有披露)。陳官對大律師公會處理這件事的手法頗有微言, 對A君另一位批評非禮罪誤判的師傅就不止微言, 而是大不以為然, 判辭為證:
68. However, looking at the material emanated from the pupil masters, one of them had provided a standardised letter of certification and a very short email confirming his view after the disclosure of additional material by the Applicant. One of them provided 2 letters in addition to the certification and confirmation. In those letters, the pupil master expressed the view that the Applicant has managed to rehabilitate himself. The third pupil master had provided 2 letters of “feedback” as well as the certification.
69. I am much troubled by one of the feedback letters. In that letter, the writer stated that during the pupillage of the Applicant he had asked for and read the full transcript of the trial of his pupil. He had “always been persuaded that [the Applicant was] wrongly convicted”, and he formed the view (after reading the skeleton arguments for the appeals) that “the appeal courts failed to grasp the appeal points”. Further, the writer felt very sorry that the Applicant “had fallen victim to our imperfect criminal justice system”.
70. The court would not attribute to the Applicant the view expressed by another person. On the other hand, it is highly unlikely for the Applicant not to have discussed his conviction with the writer, and it is inconceivable for him to have shown any acceptance of his conviction in the course of such discussion. Mr Grossman did not endeavour to suggest otherwise.
71. The writer was free to express his view and to criticise the court. What is disturbing is that he might well have encouraged the Applicant to believe that he was wrongly convicted and not to accept the criminal justice system. That does not square with the rehabilitation of the Applicant.
批評法庭錯誤定罪, 後果全部落在A君身上。從現實角度看, 被告不服定罪向高院上訴, 上訴被駁回, 繼而向終院上訴, 終院上訴委員會駁回上訴, 理由是it disclosed no reasonable ground of appeal, 去到那地步, 師傅還要白紙黑字講A君是不完善刑事司法制度的受害者(“had fallen victim to our imperfect criminal justice system” ), 豈不是由裁判官批評到終院法官, 大不敬的死罪啊, 你估寫blog, 你以為茶餘飯後吹水, 咁講咪即係對司法制度不滿 (馬鹿一定答嘴)。這一刀斬落嚟, 一撥就擘咗落A君度。我自己閱讀A君非禮案的上訴判辭, 我都覺得無釘錯。當然, 換了是個放官, 原審都可以acquit on benefit of doubt, factual finding, 點講都得, 有證據也可以無視證據存在。我能力有限, 我就看不到釘錯的地方。
如果A君在上訴至終院失敗之後曾經表示及表現悔意, 這次申請執業的結果可能會改寫。又如果他真是寃枉的, 所以他堅持自己無做過, 這刑事司法制度真的不完善……我不懂再講下去了。衡量一個人的誠信, 靠日常觀察, 鑑貌辨色, 其實都不足夠。有些極度狡猾的人, 會把自己包裝得誠懇和善, 笑容可掬, 沒有特別事發生就完全露不出狐狸尾巴來, 看人是高深學問。我最後講這些並不是講A君, 我根本無興趣知他是怎樣的人, 我只在講人生閱歷。我寧可對着個為正義而面黑的人, 好個笑裏藏刀, 道貌岸然, 滿口天主上帝的人。面黑的未害你你都預先知道, 笑面的害了上帝上帝也懵然不知。
不少人舉了資深大狀Coleman及在平洲偷胸圍內褲的馬大狀曾被定罪, 之後還可以執業(馬大狀停牌30個月後復牌), 而A君卻連申請執業也被拒, 視之為不公平對待的例子(所謂大細超)。如果以此指責大律師公會大細超, 我覺得不公平, 因為大律師公會連A君申請執業也不反對。如果說大細超, 大概矛頭直指反對A君執業的律政司。如果原本已是大律師, 被紀律處分停牌, 停牌多久律政司沒有發言權, 停完就復牌, 恐怕律政司也插不到手, 以此推斷就不能指責律政司大細超了。極其量只能說A君不能執業, 是一件不公平的事。
從判辭看, 判決本身講不上不公平。法官先以「公眾利益」(public interest)着眼, 這一點判辭第33是概覽:
Public interest
38. First and foremost, the admission of a member to the Bar involves a matter of public interest. Public interest is generally accepted as paramount, and there can be no exception in this case. I believe that there are 2 aspects under this head: (a) public confidence in the Bar; and (b) the trust and confidence which a member of the Bar commands from the court and fellow members of the legal professions (both the HKBA and the Law Society).繼而要看的是「改過自新」
Reformation
64. The second concern of the SJ is the total lack of remorse by the Applicant over the crime he committed.65. Whilst it may be said that the Applicant’s appeal to the High Court and the CFA were matters of exercising his constitutional right, the evidence before the court does not show that he has in any way accepted his responsibility. This is highly material on the question whether the Applicant has reformed from his past.
先前有報章報導講A君對非禮罪一事已有悔意, 那其實只是A君3位師傅其中一位在推薦信所講, A君自己就自始至終都否認有犯罪, 這又引伸到陳官質疑他的悔意及誠信(因為他原先有些資料沒有披露)。陳官對大律師公會處理這件事的手法頗有微言, 對A君另一位批評非禮罪誤判的師傅就不止微言, 而是大不以為然, 判辭為證:
68. However, looking at the material emanated from the pupil masters, one of them had provided a standardised letter of certification and a very short email confirming his view after the disclosure of additional material by the Applicant. One of them provided 2 letters in addition to the certification and confirmation. In those letters, the pupil master expressed the view that the Applicant has managed to rehabilitate himself. The third pupil master had provided 2 letters of “feedback” as well as the certification.
69. I am much troubled by one of the feedback letters. In that letter, the writer stated that during the pupillage of the Applicant he had asked for and read the full transcript of the trial of his pupil. He had “always been persuaded that [the Applicant was] wrongly convicted”, and he formed the view (after reading the skeleton arguments for the appeals) that “the appeal courts failed to grasp the appeal points”. Further, the writer felt very sorry that the Applicant “had fallen victim to our imperfect criminal justice system”.
70. The court would not attribute to the Applicant the view expressed by another person. On the other hand, it is highly unlikely for the Applicant not to have discussed his conviction with the writer, and it is inconceivable for him to have shown any acceptance of his conviction in the course of such discussion. Mr Grossman did not endeavour to suggest otherwise.
71. The writer was free to express his view and to criticise the court. What is disturbing is that he might well have encouraged the Applicant to believe that he was wrongly convicted and not to accept the criminal justice system. That does not square with the rehabilitation of the Applicant.
批評法庭錯誤定罪, 後果全部落在A君身上。從現實角度看, 被告不服定罪向高院上訴, 上訴被駁回, 繼而向終院上訴, 終院上訴委員會駁回上訴, 理由是it disclosed no reasonable ground of appeal, 去到那地步, 師傅還要白紙黑字講A君是不完善刑事司法制度的受害者(“had fallen victim to our imperfect criminal justice system” ), 豈不是由裁判官批評到終院法官, 大不敬的死罪啊, 你估寫blog, 你以為茶餘飯後吹水, 咁講咪即係對司法制度不滿 (馬鹿一定答嘴)。這一刀斬落嚟, 一撥就擘咗落A君度。我自己閱讀A君非禮案的上訴判辭, 我都覺得無釘錯。當然, 換了是個放官, 原審都可以acquit on benefit of doubt, factual finding, 點講都得, 有證據也可以無視證據存在。我能力有限, 我就看不到釘錯的地方。
如果A君在上訴至終院失敗之後曾經表示及表現悔意, 這次申請執業的結果可能會改寫。又如果他真是寃枉的, 所以他堅持自己無做過, 這刑事司法制度真的不完善……我不懂再講下去了。衡量一個人的誠信, 靠日常觀察, 鑑貌辨色, 其實都不足夠。有些極度狡猾的人, 會把自己包裝得誠懇和善, 笑容可掬, 沒有特別事發生就完全露不出狐狸尾巴來, 看人是高深學問。我最後講這些並不是講A君, 我根本無興趣知他是怎樣的人, 我只在講人生閱歷。我寧可對着個為正義而面黑的人, 好個笑裏藏刀, 道貌岸然, 滿口天主上帝的人。面黑的未害你你都預先知道, 笑面的害了上帝上帝也懵然不知。
講來講去衰咗indecent assault
回覆刪除below 16 or13基本上釘梗
所以低A君死 咎由自取
非禮比偷胸圍嚴重得多
回覆刪除所以不能比較
同意, 尤其是判了坐監。
刪除標少,
回覆刪除想起早前日本一件痴漢脫罪事,報紙說十分罕有,(說日本訂罪率是99%). 人心十分難估.張學友有套戲有相近劇情.現在好像是一對一犯案. 我想問這種一對一的案,其他地方是如何審.
BILL HK
都係咁審, 話一對一, 好多時都有其他輔助證據。
刪除3個師父好有問題
回覆刪除個犯同一時間两度襲擊受害人
先捏胸再摸臀部(判14天太少了)
咁嘅人格重可以當大狀?
https://www.barstandardsboard.org.uk/media/1708221/pg24_-_policy__guidance_on_criminal_convictions_-_live__new_from_october_2015_.pdf
回覆刪除在英國有比較清淅些的指引。
Terry
謝謝!Terry
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回覆刪除在英國事務律師方面的指引更詳細。報英國大學會要求填寫是否有刑事案底。
有案底的人仕在報讀法律課程前,如想做事務律師的可先向SRA 查問是否將來申請做律師會被拒絕,以免浪費時間,讀完都做唔到。
香港在很多方面都沒有進步。
Terry
A君咁叻,可以轉換職場跑道,總有地方容身的。聰明人已經是天賦的好運了。
回覆刪除Barrister Stanley Kilian H F Ma stole the Bra in Peng Chau, not Lamma Island. More importantly, can his crime be said to be more serious than indecent assault because on top of fulfilling his sexual fantasies or desires by unlawful and criminal means, Barrister Stanley Killian H F Ma was also dishonest?
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案發時家住愉景灣的前執業大律師馬浩輝,在坪洲偷取一名女街坊的胸圍罪成,二○一○年十一月遭法庭判罰款了事。大律師公會轄下大律師紀律審裁組上月中裁定馬浩輝行為失當,本月九日起暫時吊銷他的大律師執業資格三十個月,有關命令並於昨日刊憲。馬浩輝同時需分六期支付六萬元事務費。
憲報昨公布,高等法院司法常務官龍劍雲按照《法律執業者條例》的規定公布,大律師紀律審裁組上月十五日裁定對馬浩輝一項行為失當指控證明屬實,審裁組命令按例暫時吊銷馬浩輝執業資格三十個月。
需支付六萬元事務費
至於馬浩輝需支付的六萬元事務費,以分期付款方式分六期支付,每期一萬港元,本月十五日支付第一期款項,餘下五期則在之後每月的十五日支付,審裁組的有關命令已在本月十五日送交司法常務官存檔。
Corrected to Ping Chau, thanks. But why did you bring this up all the time? Could you just leave him alone?
刪除當年馮華健資深大律師 (Daniel Fung SC) 明知有法例條文對佢嘅申請不利又冇披露俾法官知刻意隱瞞專業失當離曬大譜但係又唔駛釘牌又係咪太輕手呢?
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馬道立揭發 馮華健專業失當
(明報) 2010年07月05日
【明報專訊】歷任律政專員及廣管局主席的本地著名資深大律師馮華健,2005年在高院首席法官馬道立席前處理一宗上訴申請時,明知有法例條文對其申請不利,卻未有向上訴庭披露,涉嫌刻意隱瞞。身為候任終審法院首席法官的馬道立得知後向大律師公會投訴,公會將事件轉介大律師紀律審裁組作紀律聆訊。聆訊纏訟多年,審裁組今年2月終於裁定馮華健專業失當,6月決定譴責馮華健及罰款30萬元。
馮華健今次捲入專業失當,事緣是2005年他代表新世界集團旗下香島發展有限公司,處理一宗有關租約糾紛的上訴案。香島發展因上訴失敗,邀請馮華健及另外兩名大律師向上訴庭申請上訴終審法院的許可(leave)。 聆訊中,由於馮華健未有向上訴庭披露一條對其一方不利的法例條文及相關案例,其後被主審的高等法院首席法官馬道立知悉,馬道立曾要求相關大律師及律師書面解釋,但馮與其副手的書面辯解不為馬道立接納,馬道立遂向大律師公會投訴;大律師公會將事件轉介大律師紀律審裁組處理,審裁組遂就馮及其副手的操守作紀律聆訊,由資深大律師吳嘉輝擔任審裁組主席。
守則規定交代一切相關條例
據了解,針對馮華健的投訴指他涉嫌違反執業守則的第130段和第136段,前者禁止大律師在法庭上故意欺騙或誤導法庭,後者則限制大律師在法庭訟辯時,必須要將所有他知道並相信與案件有關的條例或案例告知法庭,即使有關法例或案例對其客戶一方可能不利,若有隱瞞,就屬於專業失當。 紀律聆訊纏訟多年,直至今年2月初才作出裁決,只裁定馮華健違反專業守則第136段,至於其副手則不涉專業失當。
至6月,審裁組決定譴責馮華健並罰款30萬元,另外,馮亦需要負擔部分聆訊訟費。
立法會法律界議員吳靄儀與本身為資深大律師的公民黨湯家驊均解釋,專業守則第130段和第136段的分別相當模糊,吳表示,由於前者涉及「故意欺騙」及「誤導」等字眼,字面上較為嚴重,但其實兩者均涉及誠信問題。二人解釋,大律師雖然有責任盡力維護客戶權益,但同時亦對法庭有凌駕性的責任,不可誤導法庭之外,亦必須將最正確的法律理據告知法庭,即使有關理據對己方不利,亦有責任提出。
明報記者
Barrister Daniel Fung SC should have been suspended from practice for hiding things from High Court judges like this. Disgusting behaviour.
刪除當年馮華健資深大律師刻意隱瞞相關法例案例真係離曬大譜。
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唔知馬鹿兄對古君說本土派的事情有什麼看法?
Terry
Terry,
刪除謝謝你提供的資料, 香港的大律師公會和律師會有責任提供類似指引, 但不能寫得太狹窄。英國連有交通案底的人也不任命為法官, 香港這方面較寬鬆。
你問馬鹿的問題, 我也等待他的答案, 有時我都相信他是共產黨, 因為他思維一脈相承, 另一方面他也似外國勢力, 鼓動煽惑, 手法如出一轍。他可能要請示一下才會給我們自圓其說的答案。
不如解釋下肥佬黎話韓連山投共單野好過啦
刪除根據本土力量, 幾乎大部份搞民主運動的 KOLs (如黃教主、老蕭等等) 都係收共產黨錢做嘢
刪除https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb89xoKHcpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ga8sT9e768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwoSOf_e16A
三个字 马鹿就没兴致了 古德明
刪除IGNORE BLOCK FORGET
thats what I'd do.
马鹿
何解馬鹿兄對古德明三個字就沒有興致了?佢好憎中共,應該同你合得來,當然佢又說假本土。何解不跟古某辯論?如果馬鹿兄支持的一班本土派係鬼、係中共友,馬兄咪上了大當?
刪除班本土都奇奇怪怪,心術不正。馬兄都係避之則吉好了。
Terry
Terry : b/c I know where he stands and how he relies upon when making an argument.
刪除泛民和建制的是人民内部矛盾. since they need each other to survive
泛民对本土就是你死我活的敌我矛盾了
follow my drift so far?
马鹿
多謝回覆馬鹿兄。明白你所講的,沒有政黨不是互相對敵、利用和合作。我沒有証據古某是什麼背景的人、有沒有政黨背景,雖然他在蘋果日報寫文章。但他確是有原則有同骨的。
刪除反正你跟本土的關係,當小心,免得被利用或最後麻煩上身。
Terry
马鹿喺产党
回覆刪除可能喺或真喺?
typo 共产党
刪除這叫引蛇出洞, 一網打盡。
刪除恭請標兄點評:
回覆刪除呃機電署案 廉署收辯方文件費 官嘆咁夠膽死
http://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/news/20170622/bkn-20170622155331503-0622_00822_001.html
安得老兄,
刪除廉記不應收錢喎, unused materials都有責任交給辯方, 那是CFA案例。但練官話要畀costs, 咁我怕佢ultra vires喎, 權力來自哪? 我依稀記得大約是1990年, 老細叫我一齊去同大律師公會同律師會開會, 討論在裁判法院層面的向辯方提供證人口供那類副本的安排, 自此就開始了, 現在發展成點我唔知, ICAC也不能獨樹一格。練大人就嚟調位, 所以要快刀斬, 睇下聽日又係唔係雷聲大雨點小。
I know as a fact the ICAC has this ridiculous rule of requiring the Defendants to pay for the photocopying. It is unlawful and unconstitutional. Someone should just take the point to Court by way of judicial review.
刪除Do you think writing to SJ is a better course? Who would spend time and effort to take out JR for this?
刪除單嘢無咗下文? 睇唔到報導。
刪除ICAC officers tend to ignore SJ's directions, so there is not much point writing to SJ. Requiring Defendants to pay is ridiculous and the ICAC knows it is - they do it anyways.
刪除標少, 各位兄台,
回覆刪除別太緊張誰是共產堂, 當他是搭枱人士便可以, 照傾法律可也. 只要用法律行事,他對你亦無奈. 最多不做大陸生意, 但上面的人來你舖頭幫襯. 共產黨亦系無你符. 你看今天在香港賣大陸禁書地方仍不小.
BILL HK
不是誰是共產黨, 而是誰在扮本土/港獨來罵共產黨, 如果是共產黨咪坦白講囉, 有入黨自由, 唔犯法喎, 但收咗錢做大龍鳳就是狗黨行為。
刪除咁梁遊被整 咪死得好冤枉?
回覆刪除hehe...真耐人尋味
佢地班人就係咁...
刪除一有著數就稱兄道弟,話係同路人...
一有鑊就立刻劃清界線,然後就互指對方係鬼,佢地自己才是正宗...
所謂自決派,一講到利益,就立刻打晒交,人地未搞佢地自己都散先...
唔止佢班人, 好多搞政治的人都是這樣。
刪除建制打仔,最多都係收埋黎打,搶口基本上仍然一致對外...(最多係唐營公開唔妥梁營嗟,但隨著特首換人後,唐營也歸隊做番乖仔了)
刪除但佢地打仔,真係公開透明地打之餘,仲要公開互相毆鬥,核突到嘔...
How can barrister Stanley Kilian H F Ma shamelessly attempt to stay in the legal profession and shamelessly attempt to practise law after he had been found guilty of stealing a woman's bra? Which solicitor or lay client would be insane and foolish enough to use a bra thief when there are so many other choices around? I find this puzzling. Does this dishonest and disgusting barrister Stanley Kilian H F Ma actually get any cases to do?
回覆刪除A lot of barristers attempt to continue to practise law after their conviction of misconduct. George Chu (朱奉慈大律師) is another example: -
回覆刪除http://www.scmp.com/article/307891/barrister-barred-deceiving-university
A barrister has been suspended for six months after a disciplinary tribunal found he pretended to have a first class honours degree when applying for a scholarship at the University of Hong Kong.
George Chu Fung-chee, admitted to the Bar in 1994, also breached a promise to the university not to operate as a barrister once he became a post-graduate student, the Barristers' Disciplinary Tribunal found.
The suspension was the longest to be imposed since 1996, and the tribunal took the unusual step of ordering that its findings be sent to the Secretary for Justice, Director of Legal Aid, the Law Society and all barristers.
Bar Association chairman Ronny Tong Ka-wah SC, said it had recently started requesting the tribunal to order publication of this kind in appropriate cases.
'There is an educational element in the decisions themselves,' he said.
'There is also a need for an increase in transparency in the profession. Those of us who have unfortunately committed disciplinary offences should be made known to the public.' Referring to Mr Chu's suspension, Mr Tong said: 'This is a serious case. In these circumstances it is only right that it be made known.' Bar Association honorary secretary Ambrose Ho said further changes which would make disciplinary decisions more transparent were being considered, but they might require amending current laws.
'We hope that by publishing the details of a conviction it might help our own members in complying with our regulations,' he said.
Mr Chu, whose suspension began on February 1 2000, was found guilty in relation to five complaints of professional misconduct.
He was convicted of falsely stating that his degree in economics and political science, awarded by the University of Waterloo, in Canada, was a first class honours degree.
The misrepresentation was used to support an application for admission to the university in March 1997, for post-graduate studentship in early September 1997, and for a scholarship at the end of that month.
He was also found to have worked as a barrister in September and October 1997, despite promising the university he would not, and signing an eligibility document stating he was not engaged in paid employment.
Mr Chu has the right to appeal against the tribunal's decision in the Court of Appeal.
He could not be contacted for comment.