2018年10月26日星期五

黃毓民案沒法律基礎再上訴

各大傳媒都報導了律政司不會為黃毓民掟杯案上訴, 明報的相關報導在此;黃毓民掟杯案 律政司:沒法律基礎上訴。這決定乃意料中事。我在黃毓民上訴的藝術一文已評論過, 在該文的末段, 我已作預測:

所以, 各位何必呱呱叫, that is the rule of the game。班太的判詞言之成理, 寫相反理據也言之成理, 最重要的是法官寫出甚麼道理你能否挑出錯處, 我就挑不出。上級法院可以挑下級錯處, 上級的上級也挑下級錯處, 唯獨吾等汝等良士刁民只能互挑錯處, 天生烝民, 有物有則, 民之秉彝, 好是懿德, 互相攻訐, 情何以堪! 別學那些不學無術的法律教授, 如梁美芬之流, 大聲疾呼叫律政司上訴至終審法院, 懂個屁, 不涉法律觀點, 上訴證明書怎會批出, 會批出也不獲終院上訴許可, end of story 。連我這一關都過不到, 別浪費時間再討論。

班太(張慧玲法官)批准黃毓民的上訴, 主論據是質疑梁振英在黃毓民擲出水杯時的反應, 此屬事實的裁斷, 高院法官在一般情況下, 沒有原審裁判官衡量證人言談舉止(demeanour)來判斷可信性的優勢, 是不應輕易干擾原審法官事實裁斷的決定, 但本案控方呈上立法會的閉路電視, 班太可以從而仔細看梁振英氣定神閒的反應, 繼而裁定梁振英根本沒有受驚, 故此未符合普通襲擊的法律元素, 才批准上訴, 撤銷定罪。除非班太的裁決理據悖於常理, 或搞錯案情事實, 或搞錯法律的元素, 否則毫無上訴空間。所以律政司不再上訴的決定正確, 所以我批評梁美芬教授不懂刑事法而在胡說八道。

Jack wts在我黃毓民上訴的藝術一文洗版式留言, 我不介意, 我只是偶爾回覆一兩句, 包括我以下這個回覆:

標少2018年9月30日 下午9:46

Jack wts,

普通襲擊的法律很清晰, 法官的事實裁斷控方是極難上訴的, 所以別再花時討論好嗎? 這些在事實上推翻原裁決的情況是經常發生的, 見怪不怪。「凡事都有定期,天下萬務都有定時。生有時,死有時;栽種有時,拔出所栽種的也有時;殺戮有時,醫治有時;拆毀有時,建造有時;哭有時,笑有時...」, 訴訟也有finality, 收筆喇。

可惜Jack兄堅毅不屈, 在上一篇還繼續為此留言, 我只能奉勸一句, 這件案的裁決是沒有指導性的, 類似的案情, 只要受害人合理地受驚, 無論在案情事實及法律元素方面, 都足以定罪的。故此, 無需把黃毓民案過份解讀, facts sensitive的裁決, 以案例而言, 參考價值不高。

法律評論是apolitical的, 儘管釘了黃毓民我會更心涼, 放了他我也不會喋喋不休鍥而不捨地怒嚎, observe the rules of the game with a tranquil heart, 由它去吧。

88 則留言:

  1. 朱sir今日也出冊了,相信事件已告一段落...

    唉,朱sir''遇人不淑'',今次當買個教訓吧...

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    1. 未告一段落, 佢不是上訴到老人院嗎?

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    2. 標少話齋:終審上訴許可機會極微,加上冊已坐完,應該都要放下了...

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    3. 唔放下都唔得, 負負負得負

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    4. I suggest, though it appears to be amateurish, a possible and cogent ground of appeal, the grave incompetence of the trial counsel. The trial counsel has to file an affidavit admitting making inappropriate slur at the PTR and behaving unruly at the trial (for instance, using the baton to bang on the bar table which startled everyone in court). These behaviours individually and collectively had tainted the mind of the magistrates (was it June Cheung who conducted the PTR? and Bina Chainrai, the Principal Magistrate who stepped in to conduct the trial. ) Because of the behaviour of the counsel, the Appellant was unable to get a fair trial. The Appellant can request the PTR magistrate to file an affidavit to explain why she was removed from the trial. The Appellant should allege that Chainrai stepped in to teach the truculent counsel a lesson and because of that jeopardizing the impartiality of the court.

      How's that?

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    5. Oh, Bill, this is 負負負負負得...what a tough road

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    6. What ground does he have? All along only attacking the veracity of the witness. It is a dead duck appeal.

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    7. well, coz he and the witness were friends, by and large...

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    8. 終審條例第七條果關都過唔到啊 白撚痴

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    9. 兔仔, 要捐贈器官也要捐有用的, 別總是把最無用的拿出來。

      如果Pannu去申請, 當然就過不到第七條, 找Charlotte Draycott SC去點都會開庭聽下。

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    10. Bill siu,

      Agree with u that if it's not applied by Pannu himself, it's likely a ground to seek leave of appeal and pass the s.7 threshold.

      But even if the leave is granted and even the appeal is allowed, what will be ordered is probably a retrial? Then I m afraid it may return with a conviction again Supt.Chu again..

      Sam

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    11. Supposing appeal is allowed (I see no possibility at all), I don't think DoJ will ask for retrial given the lapse of time of the case and the time Chu served. It would be unfair for the matter to drag on for another round.

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    12. U sounds right bill siu. 受教了。

      Sam

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    13. retrial 通常適用與沒受靶 以及 jury trial 上訴得直後。

      in the event that hell freezes over and 豬經血得直 his conviction will be quashed.... and thats the end of it.

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    14. 兔兄 you r right as well. I almost forgot that Supt. Chu already completed his sentence.

      Sam

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  2. Bill siu,

    Appreciate your temperament and breadth of mind to elaborate the legal points behind DOJ's decision to Jack 兄 despite his (inexplicable) insistence. As a junior I must learn from you.

    I cannot agree more with your last sentence: "法律評論是apolitical的, 儘管釘了黃毓民我會更心涼, 放了他我也不會喋喋不休鍥而不捨地怒嚎, observe the rules of the game with a tranquil heart, 由它去吧。" That's the essence of rule of law I believe. Indeed during the discussion I sometimes felt enlightened and delighted that Jack raised a few queries about whether the existing legal principles on assault / battery was justifiable / fair enough. It seems that Jack is not a completely blind-minded person. Hopefully he can be more open-minded in future and set aside his political viewpoints if he believes that law ought to be (not necessarily be as a matter of fact) a mean to achieve justice.

    NB. just one minor point, for the phrase "只要受害人合理地受驚", is it better to write like "as long as the victim can reasonably prove that he genuinely fear / foresee...", even though I know in reality, the judge is unlikely to accept a case of unreasonable fear as a matter of evidential threshold. Would you agree?

    Sam

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    1. Tang J 話要 rely on 官嘛
      That's no problem, if 官 can solve all problems, ok?

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    2. Sam,

      I agree with your observation. I did not precisely use the legal language in the blog.

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    3. the trial counsel startled everyone in court and committed common assault...

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    4. Why "the victim prove"? Apart from norm.
      Victim IS witness.

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    5. U r right. I should have amended as 'the prosecution can reasonably prove that the victim genuinely fear or foresee...'

      Thanks for pointing this out.

      Sam

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  3. https://www.hk01.com/社會新聞/251624/佔旺藐視法庭-高院今判刑-73歲被告囚4個月-另14人判緩刑

    他們人生更精彩了

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    1. 只是一個階段的終結。They will think twice before transgressing the law again.

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  4. 多谢標少赐教我这个老頑固。
    正如你的意思,法官点判都可以的。
    我意思是存乎她一心。

    真庆幸离开了这个有法治而欠缺公義的地方。

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    1. It really depends on how u define the concept of 公義

      Sam

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    2. 所以這種案件就要交由陪審團作決定,像曾蔭權案審完一了百了,不會像台灣陳水扁案那樣總有政界人士質疑司法不公。斑太這個判決很難讓我不懷疑斑太那天沒吃早餐神智不清,雖然法庭判決很難避免偏見,但陪審團的偏見我更容易接受,因為陪審員偏見也只能偏見一次,法官讓人擔心他下次還會偏見。

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    3. 一了百了這「好處」, 查實原因是來自「一次性偏見」,
      上面這邏輯有問題吧?

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    4. 公義是目標, 不能直接取得; 法治是人們相信有效取得公義的工具!
      所以, 明顯或廣泛地有法治而欠缺公義的話, 是思維陷阱(blog友wts思維低潮?)多於事實.
      同意Sam兄, solely depends on how u define the concept of 公義 or your stand of 公義.
      BBTW

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    5. Agree with BBTW as well. 法治是人們相信有效取得公義的工具.

      Also, it's very easy to fall into the trap of suggesting sth is "fair / just" or, oppositely, "unconscionable" / "unjust" without defining what it exactly means. After all these are very ambiguous and vague concept. Without universally applicable rules to delineate and define what they should mean it's just a matter of subjective feeling, which is no different from saying "It is unfair because I don't like it"

      Sam

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    6. "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
      ~George Orwell, Animal Farm~

      每人都有自己的公義! 點算、點算好?
      B'J

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    7. 在香港,那有公投?

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    8. B'J在諷刺,提醒討論

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    9. 香港 恐怖政權的PUPPET state ....公投? in your dreams

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  5. 萍果日報,目前为止1908H.仲未有呢个新闻.
    是否希望大众忘记这件CASE,

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  6. 如果是apolitical,在佔旺清場案,為什麼沒有政黨背景會是減刑因素之一?(有政黨背景就不能減刑,是否歧視參加政黨人士?)

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    1. "有政黨背景就不能減刑", 你講

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    2. 陳官在判刑的判詞裏提及"not affiliated to any political organization", 但沒有與量刑掛勾。政黨背景這因素必然是各被告的律師提出的, 以顯示被告無份策劃這違法行為, 他們的出現是偶發性的。這種講法是辯方提出的求情因素, 我是說法律評論是apolitical。

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  7. 向魁北克省長PM掷一张纸的纸团#,assualt有罪。

    #證物找不到。
    加拿大也是普通法。
    https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/man-accused-of-throwing-object-at-quebec-premier-pleads-guilty-to-assault-1.3622857

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    1. 省長down play physical assualt.
      这个是直接接觸身体。

      张官主观意志,放生粗口民。


      https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/couillard-addresses-altercation-montreal-protester-1.3639994

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    2. Is this concept new or room for discussion after all?

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    3. I remember that I told you the difference between assault and battery, both of which come under the umbrella of common assault. I think there's any need to repeat that again.

      Sam

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    4. Barnes J's judgement is twofold. Even if we concede to Jack's repeated argument that there is sufficient evidence to find CY was apprehended, Her Lady also finds that "控方未能在毫無合理疑點下證明上訴人有襲擊控方第一證人的意圖"(para 56). Again, for this reason alone, it is not appealable either.

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    5. 加拿大單野根本唔同, 1. PG, 十分方便
      2. "was quickly taken from the area by his security team", 如果官相信是proper reaction, 那麼無論張紙有幾輕、中唔中, 已確認有immediate threat元素, 不必爭辯.

      CY氣定神閒的高手風範, 自毀了案情, 仲想告人, 即係唔識玩. ("now i got you, you son of a bitch").
      BBTW

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    6. 嘿! 從相片所見, 有個保安都係從後箍頸制服個示威者, 如示威者有乜三長二短, 唔知加拿大之司法界會點判?

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    7. 個保安咁粗暴對待示威者, 一定係有牌爛仔

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    8. "有乜三長二短", 等囉~
      等到先講, 到時你怕加拿大人唔講?????
      咪係標少地盤輸打贏要, 持續瓜瓜嘈, 標少雖然會話唔「介意」, 但有可能開文討論跟進, 嘿!!

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    9. 點呀, 仲玩緊條 lan 線呀, 係咪其樂無窮呢, 玩完好瞓啦

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    10. 哈!人權監察組的人唔出聲抗議就當無問題喇

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    11. 形容是有牌爛仔, 令人明白表達;
      斷定是有牌爛仔, 作為第一發言, 令人見到偏執, 以偏蓋全;
      若作為回應, 明顯討論上是處於下風, 在輸打贏要.

      形容者未必是高、斷定者肯定是低!
      某人放手把啦~
      BBTW

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    12. 嘿!唔誇張的講那人又怎會知自己過於武斷

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    13. 斷定=武斷, 50% DNA match, 哈!

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  8. 標少,CY可以私人控告黄吗?

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  9. re 2018年10月27日 下午7:53 by BBTW.
    1. Wong yuk Man was quickly taken from the area by Legco security team,
    如果張官相信是proper reaction, 那麼無論玻璃杯中唔中, 已確認有immediate threat元素,
    不必爭辯. ie it was an assualt. Right?

    2. Did Quebec Prime Minister 氣定神閒? I think so,because it was 一张纸的纸团.
    Why in Canada ,though victim 氣定神閒 ,accused still found guilty?
    Jack WTS


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    1. 呢度興講Legco security team襲擊, 謝謝補充!

      認真, 你唔知道普通法如何理解self defense? 反擊是襲擊, 不是自衛.
      你要討論 "張官相信(Legco security team)是proper reaction", 這相信failed, 明冇? Same reason as above.
      Point 2, "because"的用法是推理, 法庭上氣定神閒是由事實所見「直接」取得, 已作裁決, 沒有所見才由環境推斷, 間接不及直接.

      Guilty方面都話PG, 十分方便.
      加拿大案唔同即係唔同.
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    2. 如果被告PG,控方要唔要証明各項犯罪元素呢?被告既然認罪,相信個官都唔會要求控方舉証至毫無合理疑點喇!

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    3. 標少,
      好奇一問, The object in question wasn't recovered, but Torres said at the time it was a ball of paper. 是否可用 疑點利益歸被告. 便可以判斷該物品是紙團引起之傷害來量刑? 
      BILL HK

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    4. Yes. Also the premier was not injured.

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    5. 咦~ 加拿大案不是即時威脅作控罪元素嗎, 不是傷害.
      沒有爭議的'疑點'、甚麼紙如何投引起傷害程度.
      BBTW

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    6. 報導是這樣寫的:
      //Bédard noted in his decision Couillard was not injured in the incident and the “weapon” in question was a piece of paper. //

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    7. Jack wts 提供的相關報導:

      https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/montrealgazette.com/news/18-months-probation-conditional-discharge-in-assault-of-premier-couillard/amp

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    8. It is unclear from the report that the Premier was hit (battery) or dodged the "paper ball" (assault).

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    9. assault,with a weapon.
      ha ha.weapon.


      Esteban Torres, 20, was handcuffed as he was escorted into Quebec court, where he was arraigned for assault with a weapon and causing a disturbance. Torres pleaded not guilty. 


      https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/couillard-addresses-altercation-montreal-protester-1.3639994

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    10. 以上见到起初不認罪。

      二,掷不知名物件事情经过。甘到有罪。
      哗!香港真讲法律!可惜缺乏公义!

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      Provincial police said Torres threw an object at Couillard. 
      【视频,掷野】
      https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-montreal-beaconsfield-orlando-shooting-vigil-1.3638549

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    11. 加拿大法官的话,有意思。

      另外,總理有冇惊我就唔知,
      保镖肯定就惊到濑尿了!



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      LGBT bar,” Bédard said.

      “To assault someone to express disagreement after a person has said something is a crime and what’s more, if that person is a politician, the assault becomes even more a political act that is not justified and not justifiable, accepted or acceptable.”


      http://www.pressreader.com/canada/national-post-national-edition/20171021/281642485412335

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    12. 長洲有位郭xx, 標少這裡也有一位, 哗!

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    13. As Bill siu rightly pointed out, it is unclear from your news report that whether the Premier waw hit or not. If he's hit, it was a battery already, whether the Premier is injured or not, or whether he feared or not (see the case of John Tsang being hit by an egg as Jack mentioned in the foregoing discussion). I urge Jack not to mix up the concept of injury from being hit.

      Indeed I think it's very likely that the Premier got hit or otherwise I cannot see why the prosecution will charge a count of assault by weapon.

      Also weapon used in the offence has a legal meaning therein.

      The last quote of Canada Court by Jack is on the premise that the assault is committed, i.e. All the essential elements of the offence were proved. Don't take what the judge said out of the context. Indeed we could see similar reprimand of Wongs political gesture in Barnes J's judgment.

      Finally, as aforesaid, don't throw out the word justice without telling us where the benchmark lies. It's utterly subjective and will just give others an expression of 輸打贏要。

      Sam

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    14. Typo, should be 'an impression of 輸打贏要'

      Sam

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    15. sam,premier 被一件東西打中,但法庭找不到那object.被告说是一个小纸团。

      原来加拿大冇凶器,都可以入罪。

      视频看见被告在受害人三尺內掷東西在掷在他身上。

      cy不幸【一笑】被掷不中,黃脱罪。
      但凶器水杯的潛在殺傷力,比声称的纸团,多千倍。
      四,大家试下玻璃杯在约七至十米飞来,
      在你1.5米外落地,玻璃四溅的感受。
      记得做好安全措施。
      便明白上诉判决,合法律【纯系上诉官的主观判断而矣。標少已告诉大家,点判都得。

      不要将全世界法官系朦住眼的正义天使】,

      而不乎合公义!

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    16. 尊敬的sam及其他高人,
      加拿大case,大家上网搵下资料就得.
      点解常常问不清楚这样那样。
      省長冇表面受傷,不知道有冇內傷,哈哈。
      至于驚吓,多少有点,人家三尺內向你掷東西啊。

      日后在香港是assualt受害人,
      千万千万务必恐慌要七情上面到可以拿
      金像奖,才可以釘死被告。
      好似cy甘,只会,,,唉!

      A,
      昨天我已经分享一个事发经过的视频。

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      Provincial police said Torres threw an object at Couillard.
      【视频,掷野】
      https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-montreal-beaconsfield-orlando-shooting-vigil-1.3638549

      B,加拿大找不到凶器!差人不知道是什么!
      仍可以入罪。
      香港KOL点解唔问,
      法治何在?
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      Torres, a well-known activist in the transgender community, was also a speaker at the vigil and was standing near Couillard when he threw something at the premier while shouting, “The revolution has begun.”

      Security guards rushed Couillard away, and the premier was not injured.

      The object thrown was never found, but when Torres entered his guilty plea earlier this month, Bédard was told it was a balled up piece of paper.

      http://www.pressreader.com/canada/national-post-national-edition/20171021/281642485412335

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    17. BBTW已經指出加拿大案與黃案不同。
      被告認罪,並無抗辯,法官自然會判罪成,與公義無關!不用考慮受襲者有否憂慮受到即時危險,祇以案情內受襲者的傷勢、施襲者所用的武器等等去量刑。

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    18. //加拿大case,大家上网搵下资料就得.点解常常问不清楚这样那样//
      案件資料不斷由wts提供,wts對這題目很有興趣,奇怪評論比提供資料更多,是為刺激各位不常用的批評思考呀
      各位同學應好好準備內容,圍著這題目為世界中心,好好旋轉!!
      長洲高人

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  10. This PW (alleged victim of rape) is so clearly wholly dishonest, wholly unreliable and lying through her teeth. Why doesn't the DoJ just drop the case now? Why waste taxpayers' money?

    https://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/news/20181029/bkn-20181029134554552-1029_00822_001.html

    涉遭商人男友逼口交 女律師戴戒指開心自拍稱被迫

    58歲已婚商人陳偉強被指涉襲擊及性侵犯比他年輕25載的律師女友案,在高院續審。事主X續接受辯方盤問,並談及X指遭被告襲擊及逼口交(2016年4月30日)之後的事。

    X指被告在事後有「氹番」她:「佢(被告)好聲好氣好溫柔咁講話唔想我做嘢,又話畀錢我,又講好愛我。」辯方其後拿出多幅照片指在2016年5月至6月,被告不時會與X到高級餐廳及酒店吃東西,X又會拍開心自拍照發給被告。X看過照片後指,無印象與被告去過該些地方,該些自拍照則是被告逼她開開心心拍照發給他,否則被告便會發癲。其後辯方給她看一張她煮糖水的相片,並詢問是否又是被告逼她煮糖水予他,X反駁指:「可唔可以係我煮畀自己食。」

    另外當X觀看該些相片時,辯方提到相片中X佩戴的戒指亦是被告當時送給她的。X承認是被告送贈,但稱:「佢呃我話好貴,後來問番根本唔值佢講嗰個價。」她又稱:「佢成日扮到好有錢咁!」

    辯方亦給X看一份2016年5月31日簽署的分成協議。辯方指,該份協議是當日X與被告商討後簽署,內容有關X的律師樓找到生意後與被告分帳的協議,簽署協議後被告承諾替X支付律師樓職員薪金及支付律師樓新辦公室的按金和租金,故X於6月1日恢復被告經理職位,被告亦支付了新辦公室的按金及租金。辯方又指該協議違反了香港律師會的規定,因律師不能與沒專業資格人士攤分利潤,故X其後取走被告的文件就是想找回該份協議。

    X表示從無印象討論及簽署過該份協議,故不存在違規的事,至於租金方面,她一直交由其秘書負責。

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  11. No case to answer?

    https://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/news/20181022/mobile/bkn-20181022165814887-1022_00822_001.html

    律師涉遭男友強姦 與「姦夫」打邊爐照片呈堂

    58歲已婚商人陳偉強被指襲擊及性侵犯比他年輕25載的律師女友案,下午在高院續審。辯方問及女事主X與被指是姦夫的蕭先生的關係。X確認蕭是一名大律師,他是中途加入內地交流團並於當時認識,她稱最初與蕭是工作關係,及後感與蕭「啱傾」並成為緊密工作夥伴。X承認現時與蕭互有好感,但她稱「發生咁多事之後,唔覺得同佢可發展出一段長遠感情」,故現時兩人只是互有好感的好朋友。

    辯方詢問X作供期間有否與蕭見面,她稱知道與蕭是控方證人,故「唔係咁方便見面」,但因二人的辦公室在同一幢大廈,故會有機會「撞到」。她稱作供首日返辦公室時曾見過蕭「傾咗幾句」,但無討論案情。

    當辯方再詢問當晚及之後有否與蕭見面時,她稱無印象,又哭着指「對散庭後嘅事好模糊,每日返到去都係喺度喊。返到去就瞓,食唔落嘢,瞓吓醒吓咁,食埋安眠藥都瞓唔到。唔好逼我,我記唔到呀...頭好痛」。

    不過,辯方指她首日作供當晚其實曾與蕭到一火鍋店「打邊爐」,且有大律師見到並拍下照片,辯方亦將相片呈堂。X則表示:「係啩,你話有咪有囉!」

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    1. OMG. Such a disgrace to the legal profession. Her credibility is shattered. If prosecution does not discontinue with the case, then the court should apply Galbraith.

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  12. https://globalnews.ca/news/4249001/ontario-student-apple-watch-distracted-driving/

    “Despite the Apple Watch being smaller than a cellular phone, on the evidence it is a communication device capable of receiving and transmitting electronic data,”
    “While attached to the defendant’s wrist it is no less a source of distraction than a cell phone taped to someone’s wrist. It requires the driver to change their body position and operate it by touch,”

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  13. http://std.stheadline.com/instant/articles/detail/851332-%E9%A6%99%E6%B8%AF-%E3%80%90%E4%B8%81%E6%AC%8A%E8%A6%86%E6%A0%B8%E3%80%91%E9%83%AD%E5%8D%93%E5%A0%85%E6%B3%95%E6%8F%B4%E7%94%B3%E8%AB%8B%E8%A2%AB%E6%92%A4%E9%8A%B7+%E5%8F%B8%E6%B3%95%E5%B8%B8%E5%8B%99%E5%AE%98%E6%8C%87%E6%9C%AA%E8%83%BD%E8%A7%A3%E9%87%8B%E5%A4%9A%E7%AD%86%E5%AD%98%E6%AC%BE%E4%BE%86%E6%BA%90

    我之前都講過長洲小丑有人出錢贊助佢打官司,依家佢被人起晒底,政府好波!!

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    1. 現兜兜畀咪不留痕跡

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    2. 呢D人太貪了,連銀行息都想食埋...
      依家全球做緊AML,佢咁多不明的出入帳,銀行唔查至奇...

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    3. 一邊林定國,另一邊潘熙,是次開庭費用及訟費相信又浪費我地一大筆(就算判小丑輸,相信佢又會賴帳),唉...

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  14. 加拿大掷纸团案法文判词。
    http://citoyens.soquij.qc.ca/php/decision.php?ID=0BDA9156D2025150E3E628342F090D84



    http://citoyens.soquij.qc.ca
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    ESTEBAN TORRES WICTTORFF


    二,30段,被告系一时冲动,都系有罪。
    被告有ADD.

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    1. he was charged
      引用谷歌翻译,
      On or about June 16, 2016, in Montreal, District of Montreal, he assaulted Philippe Couillard while carrying an unidentified object, committing the offense punishable on summary conviction of guilt under section 267 (a) of the Criminal Code. "引用完
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      what is 267a?

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      Assault with a weapon or causing bodily harm

      267 Every one who, in committing an assault,

      (a) carries, uses or threatens to use a weapon or an imitation thereof, or

      (b) causes bodily harm to the complainant,

      is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years or an offence punishable on summary conviction and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding eighteen months.


      jack

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